tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20273746.post1434116075967929797..comments2023-11-05T04:45:10.017-08:00Comments on GALACTICA SITREP: Open Thread: #416 Blood On The ScalesLogan Gawainhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04278696479800563683noreply@blogger.comBlogger69125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20273746.post-76673255447295407392009-02-12T20:20:00.000-08:002009-02-12T20:20:00.000-08:00Before we get to Friday, I'd just like to say how ...Before we get to Friday, I'd just like to say how remarkable it is that Roslin was able to take control of the Basestar.<BR/><BR/>Poor Tory, just can't get away from her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20273746.post-74704864549273272052009-02-12T08:06:00.000-08:002009-02-12T08:06:00.000-08:00Anon,I'd say you are too caught up in minor quirks...Anon,<BR/><BR/>I'd say you are too caught up in minor quirks. I think if you were to go back and watch the whole series, you'd find little bugaboos like those you mention all through it. I don't think it has changed that much, really.<BR/><BR/>You sound like a victim of the long hiatus. I'm the same way, so please don't take this a criticism. Could it be that your image of the series took on a life of its own, and now it's hard to reconcile the imperfections in the show with the perfect image of it in your mind?<BR/><BR/>I'd agree that Mary has struggled of late, but I just recognize that it's a difficult role that few actresses could really handle well (her cancer, the presidency and all that, the opera house visions, visions of her own death, the dead-leader prophecy, her love life -- who could keep all that straight?), and she's doing okay with it.Rasmushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17035622310779849421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20273746.post-15004568952729334502009-02-11T04:56:00.000-08:002009-02-11T04:56:00.000-08:00Are you kidding? The actors have rarely had finer...Are you kidding? The actors have rarely had finer moments than they have so far in this. "Disquiet..." was amazing. And in this episode - c'mon. EJO was frightening how good he was. He just kept coming at Gaeta, pure steel, not giving an inch. "Oh yeah, I love the enemy..." Classic. Hatch was so good in this episode as well, but the real kudos have to go to AJ. <BR/><BR/>If you listen to the podcast, there is some stuff that happened in this episode that clearly point toward the endgame.Michael J Mahoneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06239057043899114566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20273746.post-4566520826116437602009-02-10T19:53:00.000-08:002009-02-10T19:53:00.000-08:00PS: I get the teleology of the show and the plot p...PS: I get the teleology of the show and the plot points and I love it. It's the direction that has lost me ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20273746.post-33227021299696880192009-02-10T19:43:00.000-08:002009-02-10T19:43:00.000-08:00Just like that guy holding up that card in that Gi...Just like that guy holding up that card in that Gillian Wearing picture, I’m desperate….<BR/><BR/>What happened during the writers strike… something maybe? <BR/><BR/>Is it even that? I don't know. Are you the person who can fill me in?<BR/><BR/>It's like I'm watching this show come apart as the friction generated by its dash towards its own end is tearing at it.<BR/><BR/>Each episode as whole, at the level of every scene and the characters themselves are disintegrated and sloppy being executed poorly and without sharpness, accuracy or finesse. Why? Are any of you people seeing that?<BR/><BR/>Is everybody involved thinking about what they are going to next? Has someone who held this show together left the scene or lost their political clout within the production process? <BR/><BR/>I have been totally hooked by this show and been an avid viewer – even through the dodgy bits (we all have them) I’m not as harsh as I might sound here – but this season is way dodgier than I’ve come to expect and I’m not in the know enough to know why. I’m hoping somebody here can tell what the frak that is going on.<BR/><BR/>Some things are as plain as the nose job on a jobbing actors face like… <BR/><BR/>What has happened to Roslin's face? What's that Posh Spice pout? She was never that good but now – cripes! - She is like some dreadful aging Am Dram... She makes Kate Mulgraw look like Meryl Streep! And, her lines, is someone else writing them now? Please, what’s happening with that?<BR/><BR/>Why have so many close-ups of Olmos "crying" when he just can't do that for a camera. Perhaps that would pass for crying in a 2,000 seat auditorium but not in CU ... He's like a botoxed kabuki player and it’s just wrong. Why do it?<BR/><BR/>Season 4 so far is more than a disappointment; it's cringingly embarrassing for me to watch.<BR/><BR/>Many of you said you wanted to cry or that you did cry after tonight’s episode well, so did I. I have waited for a year for this and now its here I’m just not getting it … I’m no critic (well, I used to play at it on TV) but, it’s a dramaturlogical disaster area, is it not?<BR/><BR/>I can be cheap and easily pleased especially when I’m in the mood to be entertained - a well timed fart joke can have me rolling in the aisles – and my desire for fulfilment can bind me to an unfulfilling object for longer than it should – I watched Voyager right to the end for the Gods sake – but, what’s happening in this last season is spoiling my recollection and enjoyment of the whole BSG saga.<BR/><BR/>I thought I had been watching a very fine Television Drama for these past few years but now every week when I sit down to catch the latest BSG I feel I’m being fed the usual 3rd rate schlock I might expect to find anywhere else in the schedule.<BR/><BR/>Can someone please put me back on the hook as I am very much missing the pleasure of this programme?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20273746.post-65483106115424588292009-02-10T11:55:00.000-08:002009-02-10T11:55:00.000-08:00BSG does a wonderful job (sometimes better than ot...BSG does a wonderful job (sometimes better than others) of showing how flawed being "human" is. At times, the correct decision to make is not the "right" decision. Many times we make decisions only to realize that we made mistakes. So the best thing to do is to carry on. <BR/><BR/>Who says the ship isn't alive in some way? What about the possibility of Cylon technology infiltrating into the structure of the Galactica? Think about the Gaia theory applied to our earth, then apply that to the Galactica. <BR/><BR/>Obviously "she" has suffered extreme damage and is old. Just as people will have to become hybrids in order to survive, why can't the Galactica become a hybrid to survive? The base stars are alive in some way, with the hybrid running the ship. <BR/><BR/>There was an older SF book back around 1980 by Evelyn Lief. The title was The Clone Rebellion. The clones in that story were like the Cylon Hybrids and they ran mining facilities and planets. The parallels to BSG are amazing in the aspect of clone technology.Christinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00026762920880289618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20273746.post-88955075845378190362009-02-10T09:50:00.000-08:002009-02-10T09:50:00.000-08:00I can't believe they FINALLY showed us the FTL roo...I can't believe they FINALLY showed us the FTL room NOW! Sheesh... <BR/><BR/>Those cracks have to be significant. The one in the FTL room and the one all the way in the other end of the ship (I assume) in Adama's quarters. "The Bucket" is dying. Maybe Galactica herself is the "dying leader." After all, she was fifty years old at the time of the miniseries, about to be decommissioned. Then, she's jumped farther and more often then anyone ever planned, has been in several major battles, and has not had a yard refit since the sleighride started. <BR/><BR/>We need to remember that the ship itself is one of the characters in this drama. This adds a sense of time-pressure to the whole deal.Michael J Mahoneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06239057043899114566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20273746.post-86107444269542266072009-02-09T19:29:00.000-08:002009-02-09T19:29:00.000-08:00interesting the different modes of resistance that...interesting the different modes of resistance that have been displayed:<BR/><BR/>(1) tyrol tried the union/non-violent work-to-rule way <BR/>(2) tory defected as soon as she had somewhere else to go<BR/>(3) gaius gained the presidency by appealing to the dreams of the masses and<BR/>(4) gaeta/zarek tried revolution<BR/><BR/>lee seems to be the only one left in the game.Tucohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01650968297492215236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20273746.post-2441327037810209862009-02-08T09:25:00.000-08:002009-02-08T09:25:00.000-08:00Re: the cracks in the wall that Tryol saw and that...Re: the cracks in the wall that Tryol saw and that Adama sees in that clue- I just assume it is metal fatigue and stress- remember Galactica was about to be retired because she was obsolete and very very old ( like me). The options for places for the people of the fleet to live are becoming smaller and smaller. I also assume that Ellen was reborn right after she was killed on NC and that she is either hiding out with Cavil ( a very interesting development indeed) or there are still another set of Cylons out there somewhere ( also a very interesting development). Or something completely different . Man it is so hard trying to remain spoiler free as I am just so frakking curious.crone51https://www.blogger.com/profile/06831571973211180467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20273746.post-8903814778280961722009-02-08T07:23:00.000-08:002009-02-08T07:23:00.000-08:00It's delicious to see everyone underestimate Rosli...It's delicious to see everyone underestimate Roslin -- Zarek, Gaeta, the cylons -- and watch them all swept aside by the astonishing force of her will. I've *almost* forgiven her for becoming Madame Checkout there for a while -- if only because seeing her roar back is so much damn fun.Eric Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07687908374545158426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20273746.post-45365973677354755912009-02-08T00:37:00.000-08:002009-02-08T00:37:00.000-08:00Roslin saying "I will end you" is just the greates...Roslin saying "I will end you" is just the greatest.ProgGrrlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06241425484095464878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20273746.post-83473870925651087622009-02-07T22:58:00.000-08:002009-02-07T22:58:00.000-08:00awesome episode - wow did zarek misjudge roslin. "...awesome episode - wow did zarek misjudge roslin. "i will use every cannon, every bomb, every bullet, every weapon i have down to my own eye teeth to end you. i swear it. i'm coming for ALL of you."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20273746.post-13275957705858372212009-02-07T21:13:00.000-08:002009-02-07T21:13:00.000-08:00rewatching this right now...it was amazing how Zar...rewatching this right now...it was amazing how Zarek consistently lied at every turn..but in the end by lying to Roslin he ensured she'd go medieval, and issue the fatwa on his ass.<BR/><BR/>Also, this arc showed some reinvigorated our best women...Starbuck's kicking ass again and the ill President was her badass self. Yay!Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02639710572191340548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20273746.post-10561395542751625602009-02-07T19:19:00.000-08:002009-02-07T19:19:00.000-08:00To ZME1:Great quote re: Tyrol! Whenthat scene was ...To ZME1:<BR/>Great quote re: Tyrol! Whenthat scene was playing out for awhile I thought he might throw himself into the gears to stop it! I'm glad he didn't have to go that far. Those gears and mechanisms of the FTL drive were wild! I loved that!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20273746.post-4436144861887000872009-02-07T18:13:00.000-08:002009-02-07T18:13:00.000-08:00"No...I think this was Baltar showing real human a..."No...I think this was Baltar showing real human apathy for someone he did understand"<BR/><BR/>You meant empathy, right?ACyclcUniversehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17269284390364602369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20273746.post-33217719476026242552009-02-07T16:44:00.000-08:002009-02-07T16:44:00.000-08:00I’m supposed to believe that Tom Zarek, an uncompr...I’m supposed to believe that Tom Zarek, an uncompromising revolutionary who has no qualms about blowing away everyone on the Quorum, wouldn’t have killed Admiral Adama the first chance he gets? <BR/><BR/>Let's face it, there was a lot of good stuff, but there was also some conventional/cliche/weak writing in this episode. I call shenanigans.<BR/><BR/>Here's my review: http://tinyurl.com/d9nfxoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20273746.post-14476840053485043322009-02-07T16:37:00.000-08:002009-02-07T16:37:00.000-08:00No...I think this was Baltar showing real human ap...No...I think this was Baltar showing real human apathy for someone he did understand, and know, quite well. It's not conspiracy, or mystery -- it's emotion and sympathy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20273746.post-51708083738112961922009-02-07T16:33:00.000-08:002009-02-07T16:33:00.000-08:00Did anyone else think there was something going on...Did anyone else think there was something going on with Baltar saying to Gaeta in their scene just before the firing squad, "I know exactly who you are"? That's the second time in two weeks that we've been given a little sort of underlining about Gaeta, after the previous week when Zarek used something close to the Razor hybrid's wprds when talking to Gaeta on the com. I know we have been told Ellen is the 5th, and therefore Gaeta can't be, but I still think it's strange.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20273746.post-73667761635819348952009-02-07T15:16:00.000-08:002009-02-07T15:16:00.000-08:00Wow. what a visceral and hard-hitting episode. Th...Wow. what a visceral and hard-hitting episode. This episode represents the destruction of a fragile society. The survivor society - fragmented. I was horrified by the murder of the quorum. That confirmed to me that Tom Zarek was all about himself, not democracy. I saw the change in and realization with Gaeta when he refused to fire on the Basestar; he wanted to stop the senseless kiling but he committed such sin by ordering Adama's execution. It was hard to forgive but so undertandable that his idealism would precipiate this crisis.<BR/><BR/>His final line "it stoppped" was magic. What did it mean, his chonic pain ended... redemption as others said? Or fulfillment of his role in this world now complete?<BR/><BR/>And Adama - he should not murder those who opposed him but rather remove them from their military positions. I support his not "air-locking" all mutineers. Pragmatism is not mercy.<BR/><BR/>This episode is so dramatic. I could not breathe while watching it and being influenced to tears by the incredible music and script. BSG shows us the power of humanity. <BR/><BR/>May we live up to the challenge we face.coonyhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01064977284541613221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20273746.post-33603672430499866512009-02-07T14:45:00.000-08:002009-02-07T14:45:00.000-08:00Will the cracks lead to a room that has a rebirthi...Will the cracks lead to a room that has a rebirthing tub?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20273746.post-39569540795003816852009-02-07T12:23:00.000-08:002009-02-07T12:23:00.000-08:00Just an awesome episode. It really sets my faith u...Just an awesome episode. It really sets my faith up for a tremendous ending to the show. Gaeta's closing line knocked me over. <BR/><BR/>I'm gods damned curious about these cracks on Galactica, too. I'm a little nervous that they're going to turn out to be somehow supernatural / linked in to The Plan, or whatever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20273746.post-23284625304164147422009-02-07T12:11:00.000-08:002009-02-07T12:11:00.000-08:00After zme1...another thing I loved last night was ...After zme1...another thing I loved last night was seeing the guts of the Galactica's engines and drives. It's like I forgot that stuff existed since The Captain's Hand (which showed us the Pegasus engine rooms).ProgGrrlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06241425484095464878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20273746.post-16386645729235231832009-02-07T11:47:00.000-08:002009-02-07T11:47:00.000-08:00Tried to post this before, so apologies if it doub...Tried to post this before, so apologies if it doubles:<BR/><BR/>Tyrol, on New Caprica:<BR/>"And it's then that you must throw your body on the gears, and on the levers, and on the machine itself, and make it stop!"<BR/><BR/>And that's just what he did.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17453663603345179020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20273746.post-67315813909031412202009-02-07T11:03:00.000-08:002009-02-07T11:03:00.000-08:00Finally we get rid of the terrorist Zarek, who has...Finally we get rid of the terrorist Zarek, who has always been a lying con artist! And finally we got rid of Felix, who I've never liked. He always had to look up to someone and be their acolyte, never his own man.<BR/><BR/>overall an amazing episode. My brother emailed me (I don't have cable and buy it on itunes) and was like "dude, get this NOW even if you need a 4th generation bootleg dubbed in Aurabesh with crazy heiroglyphic subtitles!"<BR/><BR/>One thing they did really well in this arc was show just how BIG galactica is. It is sometimes difficult to tell just how huge it is, but when you saw them running around the ship and seeing C1 dock, that was really impressive.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02639710572191340548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20273746.post-17565444021724065072009-02-07T10:56:00.000-08:002009-02-07T10:56:00.000-08:00@Sam, I asked that...and yeah, it probably happene...@Sam, I asked that...and yeah, it probably happened a while ago. Given the promos are constantly cheating all sorts of scenes, that would make sense.<BR/><BR/>A few more random thoughts right now about the ep...loved finally getting one, teeny, tiny, scene with Starbuck and Romo, together at last. Loved what Romo's pen got to do this season! LOL. Haunted by the moment when Zarek leaves the Quorum meeting room...gives the order...the look on Kelly's face. Kelly's scene with Tyrol, just fantastic. Gaeta giving the order to end Adama, Narcho accepting the order...pan over to: Tighlon with that great "Oh No You Won't" look on his face we all love.<BR/><BR/>Just. Man! Awesome.<BR/><BR/>Meanwhile for more fun if you liked this one, go read <A HREF="http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2009/02/battlestar-galactica-blood-on-scales.html" REL="nofollow">Sepinwall's review/squeefest</A>. He's en fuego!!!<BR/><BR/>And I agree with him, this *was* the most badass ep of the season so far. But it's all been pretty great. Watching it all again, in like two years, all at once...that is going to be frakkin amaaaaazing.ProgGrrlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06241425484095464878noreply@blogger.com